heart arrythmia

topic posted Tue, April 15, 2008 - 9:00 PM by  Zachary
Is there any herbs/ essential oils good for arrythmia besides hawthorn berries?
posted by:
Zachary
Seattle
  • Re: heart arrythmia

    Tue, April 15, 2008 - 10:34 PM
    Motherwort (Leonurus cardiaca) While often recognized as a uterine tonic, this herb is also a wonderful heart tonic, as indicated in it's botanical name.
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      Wed, April 16, 2008 - 2:51 AM
      Check out 'Dan Shen' (salvia miltiorrhiza). an acupuncturist would be able to help you build on the formula that would be right for you.
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        Sun, April 20, 2008 - 10:03 AM
        this is not a herb but I know two things that help with that:
        drinking hot milk with honey before going to bed, if you want a good sleep without heart trouble
        and a glass of red wine once a day.
  • Re: heart arrythmia

    Sun, April 20, 2008 - 11:17 PM
    I think we should get more information before making recommendations.

    Is this chronic, or do you suffer acute episodes associated with anxiety or other symptoms? What are all of your symptoms? What other conditions are you dealing with? What is your overall state of health.
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      Mon, April 21, 2008 - 9:37 AM
      an acupuncturist would be able to help you build on the formula that would be right for you.
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        Mon, April 21, 2008 - 7:56 PM
        or a good local herbalist.....
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          Tue, April 22, 2008 - 8:41 AM
          an acupuncturist would be able to help you build on the formula that would be right for you.
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            Tue, April 22, 2008 - 10:48 AM
            As would a good local heralist. Many ways to get to the same place.
            Blessings
            Linda
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              Tue, April 22, 2008 - 10:48 AM
              of course I meant herbalist....
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                Tue, April 22, 2008 - 5:01 PM
                serious heart problems need attended to than more than an herbalist, training in physiology of the heart, its attendent nerve bundles, and the other attendent weaknesses of the patient, are paramount to safely treating this problem. Modern science is a good addition in this case - an and acupuncturist or OMD has been medically trained as well, and can know the contraindications that a standard herbalist may not.
                my two cents, do as you see fit linda.
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                  Tue, April 22, 2008 - 6:19 PM
                  You make assumptions, I have met acupuncturist who do not have the extensive training you describe and I have met herbalists who do....as well as the other way around. "Honestly every person has the right and responsibility to choose their own health care provider. And hopefully health care providers know their limitations and work collaboratively with others when needed.
                  Blessings
                  Linda
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                    Tue, April 22, 2008 - 6:54 PM
                    Big Hugs to you Linda. :) have a great day.
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                      Wed, April 23, 2008 - 1:42 AM
                      Acupuncturists who were trained decades ago dont have as much training as the recently graduated ones. They have more experience, but they may be weaker in western sciences which did not used to be required. They recently increased the standards again.

                      I have studied physiology and western health sciences, and plan on getting my degree in acupuncture and chinese herbalism.

                      I tend to agree that in general your garden variety herbalist might not be qualified to deal with certain life threatening conditions, but some of them might surprise you.
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                        Wed, April 23, 2008 - 3:13 AM
                        i try NOT to take a real medical emergency to herbalists 'that may surprise me'. Heart conditions require serious understanding, with clinical medical experience. But each to his own, its your own life in your own hands.
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                          Wed, April 23, 2008 - 3:17 AM
                          or should i say, sign the sheet taking professional responsibility (i have), and know YOU will be held accountable. Its a risk to consider seriously, before the herbal suggestions are espoused. Thats where 'surprise me' holds little weight, but huge consequences. But i understand that you and i will never see anything on the same page, so take from it what ever you do or do not want.
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                            Wed, April 23, 2008 - 8:38 AM
                            testing to see if my comments are being blocked as it appears they might be.
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                              Sat, April 26, 2008 - 12:56 AM
                              paranoid?
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                                Sat, April 26, 2008 - 9:15 PM
                                Hardly, just have had interactions with you Travis in the past where my comments were deleted. I was simply checking out what was going on. I was not feeling safe in our interactions.
                                Please do not try to play your games with me, as when I contacted your mail box your nasty response was not appreciated. I will not respond to anymore of your comments and do not think your comment here was necessary.
                                Blessings
                                Linda
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                          Wed, April 23, 2008 - 1:01 PM
                          "i try NOT to take a real medical emergency to herbalists 'that may surprise me'. Heart conditions require serious understanding, with clinical medical experience. But each to his own, its your own life in your own hands."

                          I agree, for the most part. However, a well trained traditional naturopath should be qualified to practice "complementary medicine", and is well trained in knowing herb-vitamin-drug interactions. A traditional naturopath should not be a primary care physician, but a naturopathic physician can be. i would not trust a traditional naturopath to diagnose me, but I would accept their input for stuff like dietary and lifestyle changes, and on which supplements would be safe to take with my medication.

                          As far as self proclaimed herbalists without at least traditional naturopath status, I might not even trust them with that if its a life threatening condition.....It doesnt mean they couldnt help me, it just means Im not taking the chance,


                          I agree with you here.
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                            Wed, April 23, 2008 - 3:09 PM
                            It seems we both have kinda similar views on it. What is good, outside of the discussion of herbs themselves, is that conversations like this show people a wider spectrum of what goes into good herbal medicine, thank you for the discussion.
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      Sat, April 26, 2008 - 6:48 AM
      Hi, I'm with you Sent on getting a lot more information such as, the most basic- how old are you? Male or female? To be a liscensed herbalist in France takes years. To offer on-line advice takes a minute. We really must exercise extreme caution. This merits a thread. Om shanti-
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    Sat, April 26, 2008 - 11:00 AM
    There is so much wrong with alliopathic medicine; it tends to overlook the whole organic body, costs are prohibitive, and is not much good for psycho- somatic dis-ease. But- for cardiology, Occidental medicine is tops. At least at the diagnostic stage and for surgery, it can't be beat. When they get into prescription medicines, this where I would ask a lot of questions. Herbalism, acupuncture , and other alternative medicine modalities can be wonderful compliments, and/or complete treatments...depending on what the diagnosis is. Let's be careful on quick response.Also, I have seen many self-proclaimed specialist cutting and pasting from other sites without citing sources. Soon, the source will be gone, and what they purport will become the gospel. All of this is dangerous when dealing with someone's precious life.
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      Sat, April 26, 2008 - 9:20 PM
      "Is there any herbs/ essential oils good for arrythmia besides hawthorn berries?"

      I think we have all jumpted the gun here. When I looked at the original question, I simply see a question about herbs that help with a certain condition. Do we know that the quester has this condition? Do you? Or was this a simple inquiry for information? That is how I heard it and offered information about an herb that I am familar with. I would certainly hope that no one would take advice for such a serious condition on line, but may be doing some research and use that information to research more. I heard someone once say taking advice from someone on tribe would be like taking advice from someone on a bar stool .
      I trust we are all wise than that.
      Blessings
      Linda

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